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Unni's avatar

First time reader here, and I absolutely loved this piece. Decoding Huning's thinking has a lot of explanatory power! On a related note, I wonder whether Huning has written anything on India (w.r.t. economic, social, military, trade matters)?

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Dain Fitzgerald's avatar

"Americans are not only habituated to technological processes—they have a deep and abiding faith in science and technology. To the American mind scientific knowledge is endowed with an almost sacred authority."

I see MAHA stuff and I wonder how much that's changing. Americans are noticeably more icked out by AI and robotics than the Chinese as well.

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Kevin Munger's avatar

I’ve enjoyed your writing for years now. Just went back to check and saw the recent (July 2023) interest in cybernetics, which I emphatically share.

On this Huning point: Yuk Hui’s The Question Concerning Technology in China is essential.

And more broadly, when you invoke “apparatus”—Flusser is the best on this.

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

"If, amid this general upheaval, you fail to link the idea of rights to individual self-interest, which is the only fixed point in the human heart, what else have you got to rule the world except fear?[42] To this question Wang Huning would answer: “We have science and technology.”"

I very much doubt that Wang, or any Chinese, would give that answer, for they have a two-thousand year old civilization based on the principle of compassion, ren, which is working better than ever today, while we have neither a civilization nor a culture of any kind.

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T. Greer's avatar

Eh, Wang doesn't seem to have a lot of confidence in that---not when his book was published in any case.

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Dražen's avatar

The post you're replying to is a culture and a civilization of a kind. I'm quite happy that I've found it.

I would say that the western technological societies have strayed somewhat from the path meant for humans, probably since "I think, therefore I am" was taken seriously.

But, one can learn from one's mistakes. We'll see.

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TGGP's avatar

If I were to guess the thing thousands of years of Chinese civilization is based on, "compassion" wouldn't be it.

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

If you were to read Confucius, you'd know it is.

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

Confucius and 'Imperial China,' by Mote, who describes compassion in action.

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何流|Liu He's avatar

Wang Huning isn't Tocqueville the same way Goebbels isn't Nietzsche

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T. Greer's avatar

I do not think Wang is at the Tocqueville level.

I do think he makes an interesting point of comparison.

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The Improooover's avatar

Definitely need to pick this up, thanks for introducing it!

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